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And then reject both of those statements. I will have to confess that I am searching for the viewpoint you may possibly have had twenty or so decades back on some of these issues or extra of a comparative viewpoint from then to now. The most legitimacy Hakuin would grant to the nembutsu was to admit that it could function in a related style to the koan (and it is not as if the koan is paramount anyway - Bankei, quite possibly the most immediate Zen learn who ever lived, rejected it fully as very little extra than a gimmick, saying it was just 'studying previous squander paper'). And that's all I want it to be, for those who go through it, which include myself, to feel it. They could even feel they know it, and imagine it can be not just a belief. While it may be argued that this spontaneous revelation is not as 'pure' as Zen satori - which is also abrupt and limited-lived - in that it can take a sort, it could however be said that this type is, like Zen, also a transmission of the 'wordless doctrine', but of a different good quality. Zen satori and the Pure Land revelation are actually equal but with this variance: satori emphasises prajna (knowledge), whilst Amida's grace emphasises karuna (compassion).